« Marx n’avait pas prévu Keynes »

Interview publié dans le magazine Books, Janvier/Février 2017, pp. 28-30

Que pouvons-nous encore ­apprendre de Karl Marx ?

D’abord que notre société est une société historique, qui s’inscrit dans un flux d’événements. Et ­ensuite que ce flux d’événements ­s’ordonne de façon structurelle, que l’évolution de la société obéit donc à une logique qu’il nous faut comprendre pour pouvoir inter­préter ce qui se passe. Cette logique est difficile à reconstruire, mais elle dyna­mise de façon extra­ordinaire la théorie et l’expérience historique. (…)

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Interview: Capitalism Breeds Reckless Consumption and Starves the Public Sphere

Truth-Out.org, December 11, 2016

You cite the end of WWII as the time that capitalism and democracy became intractably enmeshed. How did it come to be that Western democracies came to assert that freedom could not exist without capitalism?

The way I would put it is that they became temporarily reconciled through Keynes‘ discovery that economic growth can be stimulated by redistribution from the wealthy to the poor. But „intractably enmeshed“ they were precisely not, as we have seen in recent decades when they were extricated from one another in the course of the neoliberal revolution. The pattern that emerged was what I call Hayekian statism: a strong state preventing democratic-egalitarian interference with markets, to allow the market to do its work — redistribute according to market rules, i.e., from the bottom to the top. Weiterlesen